Imagine tuning in to your favorite podcast and suddenly hearing that a major piece of pandemic-era history has just been uncovered.
That’s exactly what happened recently on The Joe Rogan Experience when FBI director Kash Patel dropped a major revelation.
The team investigating the origins of COVID-19 has apparently located a cell phone used by Dr. Anthony Fauci during the height of the pandemic.
For years, officials like Senator Rand Paul and Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. have been trying to get their hands on Fauci’s devices to understand more about how decisions were made during that global crisis.
Until now, they’d come up empty-handed.
A Breakthrough in the Search for Fauci’s Devices
According to Patel, after years of looking, the team finally made a major breakthrough just days before his appearance on the podcast.
He shared that they had recovered a phone reportedly used by Dr. Fauci while he was advising the country through the pandemic.
While Patel didn’t dive into the details—like how the phone was found, whether a warrant was involved, or how it was verified as Fauci’s—he emphasized that this discovery could be crucial in learning more about Fauci’s communications and decision-making during COVID-19.
What’s on the Phone? It’s Too Early to Tell
Patel made it clear that they’re not jumping to any conclusions just yet.
He cautioned listeners that any potentially incriminating evidence could have already been wiped from the device.
Still, he saw this as an important step forward.
“This is a win for the American people,” Patel said.
“We’ve been looking, and now we’ve found something. The question is, did Fauci lie? Did he mislead the public?”
He believes this phone could hold answers, and his team is already starting the work of digging into the data.
Whether or not it reveals anything new remains to be seen.
No Warrant, No Problem?
One detail that raises eyebrows is the lack of public information about any warrant for the phone’s seizure.
Normally, even for public officials, law enforcement would need legal approval to access a personal device.
As of now, no warrant related to Fauci has been made public, leaving questions about how exactly this phone was obtained.
The Bigger Picture: COVID’s Origins Still Under the Microscope
The controversy surrounding COVID-19’s origin continues.
More and more evidence has emerged suggesting the virus may have leaked from a lab in Wuhan, China, with some reports estimating up to 95% certainty.
Despite these findings, Chinese authorities maintain it came from an animal source and have repeatedly denied the lab-leak theory.
In the U.S., agencies like the FBI and CIA now lean toward the lab-leak hypothesis as the most likely scenario.
Patel didn’t directly state his opinion on the matter during the podcast, but his investigations seem aimed at uncovering the truth behind those early days of the pandemic.
Silence, Denial, and Suspicions
Dr. Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist from Rutgers University, previously commented that by early 2020, everyone who was in the know suspected that the virus might have come from a research lab.
However, he said most experts chose to either remain silent or publicly deny it.
Around February 2020, Fauci reportedly took part in a call with scientists who had concerns about the virus’s structure not aligning with natural evolution.
Yet, just a month later, a paper titled “The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2” was released, which critics say aimed to shut down the lab-leak narrative.
Fauci Denies All Allegations
Despite the allegations and public suspicion, Fauci has consistently denied any attempt to cover up the virus’s origins or suppress alternate theories.
In a 2024 testimony to Congress, he firmly stated that he never tried to discredit the lab-leak theory or influence research in that direction.
He’s called such accusations “preposterous” and insists that all actions he took were based on science and the public’s best interest.
What’s Next for the Investigation?
With the phone now in hand, Patel says the work is far from over.
The data must still be analyzed, verified, and placed in context.
“We’re not done,” he told Rogan.
“We’re still digging and still on the case.”
He emphasized that his goal isn’t to chase headlines or play politics.
“My mission has always been to put out the truth, no matter who it’s about or how uncomfortable it may be.”